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Monday, September 25, 2006

"Neighbors bring food with death, and flowers with sickness, and little things in between"

This just makes me sick


You'd think the Neturai Karta would have better things to be doing with their time on Erev Rosh Hashana.


Quote from To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security"

– Benjamin Franklin


At 3:45 PM, September 25, 2006, Blogger tafka PP said...


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At 2:46 PM, January 19, 2009, Blogger Timtak said...

Sick? It makes me like Jews (if such a singularity exists) more to hear that there are those among them that do not approve of creating countries in that which at least some people believe to be, someone else's desert.

I wish there were more "spiritual Zionists" (my phrase?) that believe in creating the promised land everywhere. Or is that only Christians? Christians is not so brainy as to have a monopoly on spreading the love.

I really like the to the Kill a Mockingbird quote too. I like the way that after listing some pretty irrelevant things (like soap dolls) Scout ends with "and our lives." Alas I am too dumb to see the connection with the topic of this blog.

At 3:24 PM, January 19, 2009, Blogger Timtak said...

In these troubled times, I wish that I understood the Zionist position better.

Can you recommend a good Zionist Web site that explains why there should not be an even more extensive disengagement, even from the West Bank too?

I knew a very intelligent Jewish lady who found those that make settlements in the West Bank (and perhaps Gaza) very impressive and sexy. I can see the attraction in a way, going out there and settling desert and making of it a Tel Aviv or similar. And doing what one believes to be right against the odds, is impressive too.

And the whole "Next year in Jerusalem", thing is so moving. I imagine a people that spent a couple of thousand (give or take) years saying "Next year in Jerusalem" and then that they eventually make it back there, and I think "wow."

But I don't understand the basis for thinking that it is right, really. I think that there maybe a lot of simple sciency, atheisty, folk like myself that see the activity as being based on an ancient Book that means little to many. I am sorry about not thinking the Torah is the word of God. I find it difficult to believe in God. So the Book just looks like a novel, to us unwashed.

I have Christian relatives that say one should do such and such because it is written in the Bible, and I don't understand them either. Yeah, sure it is written but so what, I think.

I have also met Zionisty people that believe that possession and what you do with the land creates a basis for ownership. I can see that too. Someone who make a piece of land "better," more fertile, more livable, does have some rights. Is that what is is about?

And then there are all the countries that are so recently *"*stolen*"* such as the US or Australia. Perhaps Zionists approve of the Christian expansion into the world and see it in a similar way. The whole of North American and Australia can be seen to be a sort of Zion but where is the international outcry about white Ozzies occupying more and more of Australia? Is this where Zionism is coming from?


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